VICE is in the process of wheeling out its latest intrepid reporting piece (via HBO), an in-depth, first-person account of a team of two journalists embedded in a number of Iraq-based forces currently entangled with ISIS (the Islamic State, IS, ISIL, Daesh, etc.) — the Peshmerga, Kurdish forces and the Shia militias.

Here’s a spine-tingling preview of the special report featuring the dynamic journalistic duo of lead newsman Ben Anderson and his cinematographer, Jackson Fager (just wait until it gets to the part where he interviews a captured ISIS fighter):

Anderson and Fager also hopped on Charlie Rose’s show recently. In this short clip, Anderson explains why he won’t attempt to do the reporting he did in Iraq, in Syria (because, believe it or not, you have to go in and out of the war-torn country in the same day, and through a bunch of potentially-compromised fixers and rebels):

Here’s Anderson on the legacy of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya and how the aftermath of overthrowing dictators like Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad and is turning out to be much, much worse (at least to the West) then when the brutal despots were in power:

And in very little words, his “conclusion” after his recent journey to splintered Iraq:

It’s a tremendous point. Before the Iraq War, Saddam’s country was not a direct threat to the United States and the West. Now? There’s ISIS. And yes, it is.